On Oct 6, 16:56, David Mihm wrote: } Subject: Re: startmenu updating > default. Might you have upgraded and not mv'd over your existing > non-configurable/ dir? The file name which puts this entry is called > /usr/share/afterstep/start/Quit/9_updatestart . hmmm, I did some things out of sequence- installed an rpm but then had problems and installed from source- so that might not have mv'ed the files where they should have. it is/was a fresh installation... thanks for the advice, now the menus are showing what they should be, I'll see if the update works (have to close this window :]) --Rob -- Rob Lingelbach | 6418 Velasco Ave., Dallas, TX 75214 firstname.lastname@example.org |"I would give nothing for that man's religion whose email@example.com | very dog and cat are not the better for it." firstname.lastname@example.org http://www.alegria.com --Rowland Hill, "Village Dialogues"