On Oct 6, 16:56, David Mihm wrote: } Subject: Re: startmenu updating > The startmenu file is created from the (global) > /usr/share/afterstep/start or (local) ~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/start thanks for clearing that up for me. I've got something weird that could be an afterstep source configuration issue: When I quit afterstep using the "Quit->Exit" choice, any change I've made to the look & feel is apparently saved somewhere, as when I start up X/afterstart again, the look & feel is as it was when I Exited. However, I can't seem to be able to figure out how to get the windows to come back up the way they were-- the configure guide I've read says this is saved into a file called .windows, but looking at the source, I see in include/configure.h: #define AFTER_SAVE "~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/.workspace_state" and I've also commented out NO_SAVEWINDOWS and rebuilt: /*#define NO_SAVEWINDOWS*/ ...yet when I quit AfterStep .workspace_state isn't created, or changed if it's there as an empty file. And there appears to be no .windows file either (I have a feeling .workspace_state replaced .windows at some point?) any clues? thanks. --Rob -- Rob Lingelbach | 6418 Velasco Ave., Dallas, TX 75214 firstname.lastname@example.org |"I would give nothing for that man's religion whose email@example.com | very dog and cat are not the better for it." firstname.lastname@example.org http://www.alegria.com --Rowland Hill, "Village Dialogues"