> On a related note, I'd be interested in knowing what you work uses > as it's window manager now - FVWM or twm would be the only other stable > window manager out there (releases that begine with a 0.x are development, > even though they don't call it so). If it's CDE, then your entire OS is > not stable. ;) Well, don't yell, but they are using win95 and I am trying to get a linux section going. I work in the university library ar Georgia Southern University. I have to show that there is a usable interface for the morons(end users?) that come in and gennerally screw everything up... ;) I may be going with (gasp) kde... I can make it pretty close to the current configureation, but it is a bit hard on mem. we would be running WordPerfect, Gimp, and of course, a whole slew of compilers, mostly c/c++and java. I have a long way to go getting them to let me do all of this, as there is enough crap going on with the lack of intelligence in certain offices. Thanks tho, mitchell -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.calderasystems.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html