Hi, There is a bug when using shaped windows at least with vertical titlebars enabled. (I have not tested with horisontal titlebars). When I move a shaped window that does not have a titlebar, the backdrop is moved along with the window in the space that should have contained the titlebar. This space is also not transparent, thus somewhat destroying the feel of a shaped window when another window lies beneath it. This can be tested with ie. penguineyes or the kjofol plugin for xmms. Oh. Afterstep version 1.7.157 of course. FrankRL -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.calderasystems.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html