Hi, I am having trouble with my wharf. Every time I start AS it almost starts (it opens for a breif second) then dies. I then must wonder around my desktops looking for the many stray as-apps that now have no home. everything was working fine a week ago. I have since only installed xmms and I really don't think that has anything to do with my wharf. After finding and closing/killing all the strays I can restart my wharf with no problems. I am using AfterStep 1.6 on a 2.2.1 kernel. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. -Kalen Honeyfield ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ No one said it would be easy. But no other operating system that I know about is as much fun. Tim O`Rielly, Unix Power Tools ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email: firstname.lastname@example.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- This is the mailing list for the AfterStep Window Manager for X. To unsubscribe, type the following command at the prompt: echo "unsubscribe as-users <your_email> " | mail email@example.com. For more help on AfterStep, refer to the on-line documentation at http://www.afterstep.org.