X-as-users-dont-resend I would like to take a moment to thank you for your dedication to the list and seeing the problem through. I think all AS users owe you big THANKS!!! (despite the spam =) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: yet another test (tm) Author: Doug Alcorn <firstname.lastname@example.org> at smtppo Date: 1/4/2000 8:55 PM OK, since I _do_ think this is working I will go ahead an offer another appology. I am sorry about all the spam over the last two weeks or so. The list is cleaned up and shouldn't present any more problems for the time being (nothing is ever constant :) ). For those of you interested, messages to the list will have the "To:" header as "email@example.com". This should satisfy all of us procmail users (myself included). Munging the "From:" header or "Reply-To:" header is a Bad Idea (tm). That's part of what all the problems were in the first place. OK, now some history that leads up to what went wrong. A long time ago on a server now defunct, Caldera agreed to host our mail list. Happy, happy, joy, joy. For many moons life went on without a hitch. This was mostly due to good administration from Ed at Caldera. Then Ed got moved off to some other job function within Caldera. Also due to his good admin and setup, we didn't know this for a long time. For about 9 months our list went without any attention at all and longer without regular attention. Then Caldera split into two divisions/companies/whatever. Our mailing list server got canibalized and the list became defunct. This is about the time that I had the MX records for @afterstep.org forwarded to my server (ominous music begins). I have only run a few small to mid size lists to date, but thought I could handle our list. Ed originally told me that the mail addresses for our list was /dev/null. So, I started a list from scratch. A few days later I get a copy of the supposed original address list. Here's the bad part: I plugged it in and went out of town. Unfortunately, there were many bad addresses in this list. I think it was restored off a backup or something and was quite old. The second Bad Thing that I did was have the list munge the reply-to feild to that all bounces acctually went back to the list. I return from Xmas with my mailbox quite full of bounces and hate mail on what a lousy list administrator I am. I can take all that. For the most part I deserved it. Please do not take your frustration out on AfterStep. Ethan, Sasha, and the gang work very hard on the development and have a great product. Feature for feature there isn't a window manager that can compare. What is missing is adequate volunteers (which is why I ended up as list manager). Again, my appologies. -- This is the mailing list for the AfterStep Window Manager for X. To unsubscribe, type the following command at the prompt 'mail -s unsubscribe firstname.lastname@example.org'. For more help on AfterStep, refer to the on-line documentation at http://www.afterstep.org.