Re: Ideas, sugestions, requests.

Christof (
13 Feb 2002 11:19:10 +0100

Bartosz Wucke <> writes:

> Hi.
> I've been using Afterstep for some 4 years now, and even though I've
> tried many different desktop managers - but none provided some of the
> features I found essential and present only in AS. Here I'd like to
> share what I've found so neat, and ask for things I'd like to see
> implemented.
> First of all, the main thing that makes most of my friends envy me my
> config, and me grin upon poor M$ Windows users with their single tiny
> desktop :)
> Take base.xxbpp file and change the entry DeskTopSize to something like
> 7x7 or similar, depending on your config. (On small memory systems, 4x4
> will do, if you're even wilder user than me, you may like 10x10 or so, I
> switched to 7x7 after 5x5 became too few.)
> Then take 0_feel.xxbpp and find entries EdgeScroll (set it to something
> between 5 5 and 10 10, for me 8 8 works fine) and EdgeResistance (set to
> 0 0)
> Now you've got it. A HUGE scrollable desktop. One. No need for more, really.
> Of course navigating this thing would be very hard, so set up a sticky winlist
> and pager in decent way (my preferred setting for Pager was replacing
> help in Wharf as:
> *Wharf Pagers AfterStep3.xpm,3_dots.xpm Folders
> *Wharf Pager - MaxSwallowModule "Pager" Pager 0 0
> *Wharf ~Folders
> In this way, if I need more screen space, I just hide pager :)
> Of course, it sounds all to great to be so, so now honestly I confess
> all the problems. First off, even with Pager and Winlist, I often get
> things lost in the ocean of my desktop. Second, scrolling is far from
> smooth, especially with many windows on screen. I'd like to use neat,
> smooth EdgeScroll 1 1 but it's way too slow. 8 8 is acceptably fast,
> though looks quite jerky.
> 	 The feature looks very similar to using "Virtual" entry in
> XF86Config-4 file, which allows very neat smooth and fast scroll, full
> virtual workspace size background image, doesn't conflict with other
> features (this too! you can combine somewhat oversized virtual with
> edgescroll without problems!) but has serious drawbacks, one of which is
> hardware limit on the workspace size (2048x2048 is the most I got) and
> the fact that new windows open often quite far from your physical
> display. (and if it's a small popup like "password" it's really annoying
> to look for them using winlist all the time.)

Have you tried ~/G/L/A/database ?

> Next issue. Why not be consequent and move default aterm config to an
> afterstep-style config file? Some people may find writing
> aliases/scripts for things like
> aterm -fade 66 -shading 50 -tr -trsb -sr -st -sl 2000 -bg black -fg
> green -fn -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -sb
> -name xterm -n
> Lapdog -T 'My Transparent XTerm' &
> may find amusing, but I prefer to use option names that mean more than
> -sr, -n, -sb or -fade. (for now my aterm alias is 2 lines long too, but
> I hope it could change?)

You can do it in your ~/.Xdefaults

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