I read the archive for this list and have been all over Google Groups to see if this has been beaten to death yet, but I have not seen much on it. I got a new applett to put into my wharf, Temperature.app, and it comes up fine as a stand alone app. It goes into the wharf as well, but when it is in the wharf, it's a negative box, just a black box with nothing inside it. If I watch carefully, the temp (green letters and numbers) shows for the briefest of seconds then it seems to be overlaid by a black box. *Wharf Temperature.app - MaxSwallow "Temperature.app" Temperature.app -s KDFW & *Wharf asapm - MaxSwallow "asapm" asapm & The apm one I put there is for reference and it works fine. The Temerature.app does not. I've tried full path names, moving the binary to lower case, moving it to without the .app extension and a handful of other things, but it still shows up blank. Any help? Thanks DanH -- UNIX - Not just for Vestal Virgins anymore Linux - Choice of a GNU generation _______________________________________________ The AfterStep Window Manager for X User's Mailing List http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users