--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 2004-03-15 15:35 (lundi), Sasha Vasko a =E9crit /=20 On 2004-03-15 15:35 (lundi), Sasha Vasko wrote : >=20 > M.-A. DARCHE wrote: >=20 > >Le 2004-03-04 16:30 (jeudi), Sasha Vasko a =E9crit /=20 > > 1. Some pictures are still missing, especially there isn't any icons > > found by AfterStep : > > > > afterstep ERROR: I'm terribly sorry, but image file=20 > > "dots/arrow_short_small" is nowhere to be found. >=20 > You either don't have libPNG on your system setup properly, or you use=20 > RedHat -alike or debian-alike, where for each library there are 2 kinds= =20 > of packages - libraray itself, and devel package. You need to install=20 > devel package for libPNG. >=20 I'm sorry for that. I should have read the README file in detail :-( : > > If you use a package management system (like RedHat, Mandrake etc) you > will need to get the appropriate <libname>-devel rpm and not the actual > source code mentioned above. > Running the AfterStep 2.0 beta4 release with the libpng-dev package provides a much more enjoyable user experience. I'm even more sorry because this seems to have convinced you to add libjpeg and libpng in libAfterImage in the end :-( as seen from CVS. I run Debian systems and I had read about the need to have the libpng-dev package. But since ./configure didn't complain about that I thought I had all that was needed. I really do think, like others on the list, that having libpng and libpng-dev is a good practice. > > 2. A call to "Exit -> Restart session" in the menu caused an error. = I > > could not find the core dump as in my filesystem advertised : > > > > Printing Debug Information : >=20 > Thanks for reporting that - fixed. >=20 I could not test that since the CVS code doesn't build at the moment. > > 3. I could not make work any of the form and script "screenshot" > > utilities. >=20 > Script and Form Modules has not been implemented in 2.0 yet - what you=20 > trying to use are the leftover from old afterstep installation - they=20 > won't work. >=20 Can we help on this even if we don't know AfterStep C code ? > > 4. I did not manage to change the background of any of the desktops. > > The configuration I use was in a file > > afterstep-2.00.beta4/share/afterstep/looks/look.Border. I restart= ed > > afterstep and selected this file in the "look" menu with no effec= t : >=20 > Have no idea where you got this look from - its not in the 2.0 distro.=20 > That maybe another leftover from old afterstep installation. >=20 This look is a look I'm trying to come up with as a contribution to AfterStep. It should feature window borders when done. I'll do other tries before reposting. > > 5. As already writen on the mailing list, some elements are describ= ed > > using an XML-like syntax. But it's not well-formed XML. You shou= ld > > use quotes around your attribute values. I understand that this = is > > your own parser and that you deal with your own data format as y= ou > > want. But AfterStep follows standars and good pratices in so muc= h > > domains that using well-formed XML is a something that one might >=20 > PLease feel free adding all those doublequotes and submitting me a patc= h. >=20 Patch included in this email. XML normalization has been done like that : $ for i in ./backgrounds/Plain_Textures/xml ./backgrounds/xml ./desktop/b= ars/xml ./desktop/buttons/xml ./desktop/icons/mini/xml ./desktop/icons/xm= l ./desktop/tiles/xml; do tidy -xml -modify $i/*; done > filename extentions are evil. period. for example what prevents me from= =20 > slapping .jpg on xpm file? Nothing, and I could very well do that -=20 > leaving you very confused. On the other hand if you have alot of files=20 > with extentions of .jpg, and you set up your config accordingly, but=20 > then you decide to switch to PNG format - you are in deep trouble now,=20 > as you have to change all your config files, and you have to somehow=20 > support lots of users ot there who have .jpg files referenced from thei= r=20 > config. >=20 > File type should only be decided from the file contents. It should neve= r=20 > be based on filename. Silly tradition of associating filenames with fil= e=20 > type comes from equally silly MS Windows, and it'd be wonderfull if it'= d=20 > stayed in there only. If you want to use more MSWindows-nesque system -= =20 > please use KDE. >=20 Don't be insulting, you know just like me that file suffixes helps a lot for automatizing, otherwise you would not use .c files for AfterStep code, would you ? But as for the AfterStep XML images I now really agree that suffixes should be avoided. And as a side note, one can find some XML files with the .xpm suffixes in AfterStep at the moment. 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