[As-users] Issues with AS 2.00.01

John Gruenenfelder (johng@as.arizona.edu)
Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:37:34 -0700



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This is a repost of a message I sent a little while back.  I never got any
replies, but it was during holidays, so many people were probably gone.  This
message isn't exactly the same as I have updated some of my observations and
added a new issue.

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First, before I start complaining, let me just say that as a long time AS
user, so far I am liking AS 2.x a lot.  It looks great.

I am using the recent Debian build of AS.  As far as I know, it's a fairly
standard build.  I have also tried a CVS build I made as of about three weeks
ago or so with the same results.  I've got a few configuration issues I could
use help with, though:


1) Tinting
My preferred look uses a lot of tinting.  Really, tinting just about
everywhere.  It's working in most places, but not all that it did in 1.8.
Tinting on wharf, winlist, and page is working.  Tinting on my window
titlebars and on the AS menu is not working.

For the titlebars, the tinting is sort of broken.  It *is* tinting the
background, but not the background I want.  AS starts with some default
background and then xplanet updates it after a few seconds.  The titlebars do
not pick up the new background and continue to use the original one.

For the AS menu, it is the same, except that it is the titlebars and the menu
items themselves.

2) DontDrawBackground
Enabling this in my look file will cause AS to crash.  According to the stack
trace (attached), the crash occurs in the config file parsing function.  I
should mention that I'm not entirely sure what this option does.  I assumed
that since I'm using xplanet for drawing the background, that I would prefer
not to have AS do it, but I don't know if that is necessary.

3) AS feels very slow
AS 2.x feels much slower than 1.8.  At the same time, slow operations do not
appear to consume a lot of CPU time.  For example, there is a 1/4 to 1/2
second delay when I use CTRL+arrow to scroll my desktop whereas with AS 1.8
this occured with no such delay.  Because of this delay, I can issue several
scroll commands and then watch the screen and pager as the scroll actually
occurs.  While it is moving about, I can watch the CPU monitor and see that it
is nearly idle.  To me, this means that whatever the delay, it's not caused by
CPU munching.

It's not just desktop scrolling, either.  The AS menu is very slow to open and
to open submenus.  Actually, any operation which opens or resizes a window is
painfully slow.  Additionally, there is a delay between the time that I give
a different window focus and the winlist shows this.  Since the 1.8 winlist
didn't show window focus status, I don't know if such a lag was present then.

4) gkrellm won't WindowListSkip
I use gkrellm on my desktop right next to my Wharf.  I like to have it
considered like an extension of Wharf, so I give it similar parameters in the
"database" file:
  NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip, NoHandles, AvoidCover
Unfortunately, these lines don't seem to have any affect.  gkrellm appears in
the winlist and I can easily cover it with another window.  xprop shows its
classname to be "gkrellm" which is what I put in the database file.  This
worked in AS 1.8.  I know the database is being read, as I removed many of the
"StartsOnDesk" items and that change did work.

5) AS modules always on top of other windows
With my old configuration, I had the AS modules set to AvoidCover.  These
included pager, Wharf, and Winlist.  This would prevent small windows from
covering them, but if I opened a very large window, I could cover them and the
new window would be on top as well.

Now, however, these modules always seem to be op top regardless.  If I open a
large window, it will be beneath.  Even fullscreen windows such as Xine or
mplayer output will be beneath these modules.  In the default database file,
these modules has "Layer" options in their config.  I removed these, hoping it
would make the modules behave like other windows, but it did not help.

6) Window title changes not often shown in title bars or winlist
When a window is created, it will have some title.  Many programs often change
their window's title, such as Firefox or even aterm.  These subsequent changes
only occasionally become applied.

For example, when aterm starts, it shows "aterm", but when bash is finished
loading, the title should change to show "user@machine:`pwd`".  Usually this
does not occur.  Changing directories will *sometimes* update it, but not
always.  With Firefox, the window title never seems to change, which can be
annoying when you want to know the current page's title.

Also, the titles shown on windows (wether correct or now) sometimes become out
of sync with those displayed in the winlist.  For example, I may have two
aterms open.  The two window titles may show "aterm" and "foo@bar:/home" while
winlist may instead show "foo@bar:/home/foo" and "aterm" respectively.

7) RandomPlacement operates differently than in 1.8
Maybe this isn't a bug, but RandomPlacement doesn't work quite the same as it
did before.  I get a crawling problem when using the "xv" image viewer
program.  Now, each time I move to another image (when viewing multiple images
in a dir, for example), xv will reposition its upper-left corner.  Previously,
as long as the next image would fit on screen, xv wouldn't move.  If the image
was too big, or if xv was to close to the bottom of the screen, xv would move
up and left to try to fit the whole image on screen, if possible.


Well, I hope that didn't seem like too much complaining.  None of these
problems are major, but they are annoying to some extent.  I've included my
look, feel, and database files for reference as well as the afore mentioned
crash log.

Thanks again for all your hard work on AS!


--John Gruenenfelder    Research Assistant, Steward Observatory, U of Arizona
                        johng@as.arizona.edu
Try Weasel Reader for PalmOS  --  http://gutenpalm.sf.net
"This is the most fun I've had without being drenched in the blood
of my enemies!"
        --Sam of Sam & Max

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/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "elrond"
/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
File is already up to date
afterstep warning: LANG environment variable is not set - use -L "locale" command line option to define locale
afterstep warning: Failed to store image id [arrow_short_small_icon].
Segmentation Fault trapped in afterstep.
Printing Debug Information :
 Loaded dynamic libraries :
   [0x40027000]:[/usr/lib/libAfterConf.so.0]
   [0x40047000]:[/usr/lib/libAfterStep.so.0]
   [0x4008d000]:[/usr/lib/libAfterImage.so.0]
   [0x400d5000]:[/usr/lib/libAfterBase.so.0]
   [0x400f0000]:[/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6]
   [0x4015d000]:[/usr/lib/libz.so.1]
   [0x4016f000]:[/usr/lib/libtiff.so.4]
   [0x401bd000]:[/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62]
   [0x401dc000]:[/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0]
   [0x40201000]:[/lib/tls/libm.so.6]
   [0x40223000]:[/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6]
   [0x402ea000]:[/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6]
   [0x402f3000]:[/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6]
   [0x4030a000]:[/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6]
   [0x40319000]:[/lib/tls/libc.so.6]
   [0x40000000]:[/lib/ld-linux.so.2]
   [0x4044d000]:[/lib/tls/libdl.so.2]
   [0x40451000]:[/usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1]
   [0x4045a000]:[/usr/lib/libXrender.so.1]
   [0x40018000]:[/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcDef.so.2]
 Signal Context :
  Registers
   EAX: 0x08086118  EBX: 0x0807EEBC  ECX: 0xFFFFFFFF  EDX: 0x0807F870
   ESP: 0xBFFFFC60  EBP: 0xBFFFFCD8  EIP: 0x0805D8A7
   ESI: 0x00000000  EDI: 0x4008B3E0
 Stack Backtrace :
   FRAME       NEXT FRAME  FUNCTION
   0xBFFFFCD8  0xBFFFFD48  0xBFFFFC60  [LoadASConfig+0x3E7(999)]
   0xBFFFFD48  0xBFFFFDA8  0x08056302  [main+0x432(1074)]
   0xBFFFFDA8  0x00000000  0x4032E904[program entry point]
Please collect all the listed information and submit a bug report to <as-bugs@afterstep.org>.
If core dump was generated by this fault, please examine it with gdb and attach results to your report.
 You can use the following sequence to do so :
   gdb -core core /usr/local/bin/afterstep
   gdb>backtrace
   gdb>info frame
   gdb>info all-registers
   gdb>disassemble

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